Friday, February 15, 2008

Some great resources for the journey

Joel has posted on his blog a list of blog posts and articles about the church. I've read several and have found them to be very helpful. As I've combined the different ideas and thoughts presented in these articles, a clearer picture of the church that Jesus is building has emerged. Thanks, Joel for compiling this list.

For some time now, I've been slowly travelling through Joel's archived blogs and have found some great information. On June 19, 2007, he posted a chart listing what grace is and what it isn't. I've found this chart to be very helpful as I seek to get more established in grace so I decided to share it with all of you.

Since I wanted to keep this chart handy for future reference, I pasted it on a Word document, printed it out and then had it laminated. It's now in a permanent form which is readily available for future reference. I think it would also look nice on poster board or construction paper.

If you haven't seen it yet or it's been a while, I encourage everyone to check it out. It's a great resource.


Joel Brueseke said...

Hi Aida,

The picture of the church that Jesus is building is becoming clearer to me as well, and I know I have a lot more learning to do. I think it's interesting that so many of those blog posts were posted in close proximity to each other, time wise. Some of them are older, but it just seems that many seemingly unconnected people have all had similar thoughts to share lately.

Wow... printed out and laminated! :) I do like things like that, that point out contrasts. I think it helps make the truth clearer. I've often found myself really learning a great deal when I've been focused on something negative or untrue that I've learned in the past, and have then contrasted it with the truth. As I've said in several posts, there's a "big difference" between the old and the new, law and grace, etc, and I love pointing out those contrasts and having those contrasts pointed out by others.

Walking Church said...

Hey Aida:

Cool stuff posted. Added you as an interesting side trail to meeting of one.

I think people just want a place that points to Jesus. A place where people are embraced exactly where they are in there walk. Loved not Judged. Hopefully a place where one has His discernment as to how one can speak or listen into another person's life.

Meeting of one is on tomorrow...we have interesting weather to contend with...I have a couple of things that may be brought forward or not...I have no music, no sermon, no agenda other than letting Him minister to His Saints. For someone who likes order - this is a total release.

I see us much like a networking group; people of like mind...seeking a deeper walk with Jesus. It is funny too, I have have encountered people who want to leave 'trad' church but yet when they come out to something different they want to impose the old vision into the new...meaning making a new version of trads-ville. Humans are interesting to say the least.

Sorry for the ramble....perhaps more...a nervous excitment of tomorrow's events.

Aida said...

Hi Joel,

At one time those of us thinking outside the box would have thought that we were the only ones thinking the way we do and we would have just ignored our thoughts thinking we were wrong. Now, because of the internet, believers are finding out that others are thinking along similar lines so maybe we're not crazy or heretical after all.

Being a visual learner, I find charts and graphs helpful. I really like the way you set up your chart. I agree with you that pointing out the contrasts are a good idea. For so long, we've been taught and believed the lies. Therefore, part of our learning process often involves unlearning. The lies have to be exposed before they can be unlearned and the contrasts that you've presented in your chart have helped me in this unlearning process.

I can have things laminated at work for $.25 so it seemed like a good idea to me since I knew I would be referring to it often.

Hi Walking Church,

I think your name is Alvin. Is it okay if I call you that?

I'm glad you enjoy what I've posted. Father has been showing me a lot and I'm glad to finally meet a group of believers who are willing to sort through these ideas without getting defensive.

Thank you for adding my blog to your interesting side trail list. I've enjoyed reading what you've had to say on your blog and have also added it to my favorite list.

I agree with you. The church has been silenced for too long and now many are learning that things are not the way we've been told. Many are struggling and need to know the truth that they are loved and accepted without any conditions attached. Unfortunately, the church has not always been very loving and accepting.

I'm learning to accept other people's journeys and not try to make them comform to my idea of what they should be doing but to give them freedom to accept these truths are they are ready. As you've said, I want to be someone who has His discernment as to how I can speak or listen into another person's life.

It's important to wait on Father's timing otherwise people may be turned off if they feel we are trying to push them into accepting something when they're not ready. As a result, the process may be delayed unnecessarily.

I hope meeting of one goes well today and that the weather is good. It sounds like a great group of people. I wish I lived closer so that I could gather with all of you.

I know what you mean about people who want to leave a traditional group yet try to impose the traditional. I was one of those at one time. When I first started coming out of religion, I attended a group that didn't have a lot of structure. Being somewhat inflexible at the time, I couldn't stand the lack of structure and left. Others left too and the group eventually ended. Now, I wish I had stayed with the group but I wasn't ready at the time.

If led, I hope you'll share how meeting of one went.


Walking Church said...

Yup I am Alvin. I have posted the outcome of our meeting today. I simply cannot believe how incredibly simple our formula is. We just are. We exist to 'be'. We are so under the radar it isn't funny. In a sense we have gone underground.